The following story surrounds the cabinet decision to demolish Central Hill, and focuses on the involvement of Councillor Luke Murphy. It is a story of deceit and manipulation, of denial and blame, and proof that your local councillor is not independent and genuinely addressing the concerns of the ward constituents, but is instead working hand in hand with the employees of a corrupt council who are determined to demolish homes and lives. And your local councillor was prepared to lie to achieve that end.
Councillor Luke Murphy, the Labour Councillor who took the reins as the third man for Gipsy Hill Ward in Lambeth in April 2016, following the sad passing of our long-standing and trustworthy Councillor Niranjan Francis, has been working hard to get to know the people on his new patch; he said so in his statement to the Cabinet meeting of 23rd March 2017, convened for the purpose of deciding the future of the Central Hill Estate. To demolish or not to demolish?
On the face of things, Councillor Murphy comes across as a clean-cut, keen, and honest young man. But things are not always as they appear.
At the meeting in March, Murphy made a statement claiming to have visited many of the residents on the Central Hill Estate, referring to some with a vague description that was not enough to make them directly identifiable, yet claiming these residents had numerous severe problems with their homes and were therefore desperate to see the estate demolished and to be re-housed in new housing as proposed by Lambeth Council to replace the existing estate. He clearly never expected anyone to recognise the residents he was referring to. Big mistake.
You can listen to the full audio of the cabinet hearing here. It all makes interesting listening, but you can go directly to 107.45 for the statement by Councillor Murphy.
Unsurprisingly, despite the challenges to the proposals, the agreement to demolish was waved through without even a vote by the Lambeth Cabinet.
Following the meeting, Karen Bennett, a resident and one of the lead campaigners against the regeneration of Central Hill, realised that the “elderly brother and sister” Luke Murphy had referred to in his statement were in fact her neighbours two doors along and with whom she had been friends for seventeen years. Also knowing that they actually had always said they opposed demolition having lived in their home for 44 years, she was bemused by their inclusion in Murphy’s statement as being desperate to get out of their home, which was allegedly smothered in black mould. So she popped along to see them.
The truth was very different.
Barbara and Bill Kingston, an elderly brother and sister who have lived in their home on Central Hill since it was built, originally with their parents, had never even met Luke Murphy. In fact, they were instead paid a visit by Councillor Jennifer Brathwaite, one of the other ward councillors, who actually never set foot inside their home. They advised Councillor Brathwaite that they were happy in their home except for one thing; the plague of mice, which has beset the entire estate. Something the council are well aware of due to the numerous reports by residents, and something the council has failed to address.
So Barbara Kingston agreed to make a statement outlining the ACTUAL turn of events in order for that to be read out at the Scrutiny Hearing, called in by the only Conservative Councillor, Timothy Briggs on 3rd May 2017. Barbara’s statement was included in Karen Bennett’s address to Scrutiny and reads as follows :
“My name is Barbara Kingston and I live at no. 5 Ridgeway on the Central Hill Estate with my brother, William Kingston. We received a visit, NOT from Luke Murphy, but from Jennifer Brathwaite, who didn’t come in, but spoke to us at the door. She asked if we have any issues in our home. Bill told her we have mice, and are very upset that the council are doing nothing to resolve the issue. We have reported it many times, and only now have they stuffed wire wool in the holes where the old district heating goes in to the adjacent properties. We were asked about mould, and Bill told Councillor Brathwaite that the only mould we have is in the corner of the living room ceiling, and a small patch on the ceiling by the window in one of the bedrooms. We do not and never have had mould on the walls and do not consider the mould to be a risk to our health. We certainly don’t think it’s a reason to knock down the flats. We DO think, the council, as our landlord should come and sort out the patch of mould and deal with the mice. We are not THAT old and we are certainly not infirm, and at no time have we suggested that we require a home more adapted to our “needs”. We actually think Councillor Murphy is very rude to say this. We have never said we support demolition and in fact have completed surveys for both the residents and The Campaign Company who called on behalf of the council, and have stated in both of them that we do not want demolition but want the estate refurbished. We have lived here for 44 years, since 1973, when the estate was completed, originally with our parents, and then the tenancy was passed to me. If we were forced to move into a new home, either on the new estate or elsewhere, I would fear for Bill if anything happened to me, as the new tenancy would not pass to him and would not be secure. The only security we have is this flat. For the record, we are very happy here and want this to be our home for the rest of our lives. We know and like our neighbours, including Karen and Norman at no. 3 – we’ve known Norman for 44 years! We strongly oppose demolition and are very angry that Councillor Brathwaite has misinformed Councillor Murphy about us and that Councillor Murphy has misrepresented us to Cabinet.
Despite this and other evidence of “truth tampering”, such as the numbers of residents who allegedly supported the demolition of the estate (Lambeth claimed 55% of tenants supported demolition while the resident’s own surveys showed that nearly 80% of tenants were against it), the Scrutiny Committee refused to consider referring the plans back to Cabinet for reconsideration and instead supported the original decision to grant a demolition order for the Central Hill Estate. Although Luke Murphy was not present at the Scrutiny hearing to hear the challenge to his original statement to Cabinet, he would have been made aware immediately afterwards.
We believe this to be a clear case of misrepresentation by Councillor Murphy at the original Cabinet hearing, yet neither he nor Lambeth Council have made any public comment in this connection. A major concern for residents is that if he misrepresented the Kingstons, whom we WERE able to identify, did he also lie in his claims about the other residents he referred to, but who were not so easily identifiable? And surely if the Cabinet decision to demolish homes was based on lies, should it still stand? Councillor Murphy must have thought his statement would impact the cabinet decision over the future of the estate or surely he wouldn’t have made it; or indeed twist the stories of the residents. In fact one wonders why he did. Could he and his compatriots not find residents who GENUINELY supported the demolition?
Following the disappointing but not altogether unexpected outcome of the Scrutiny hearing in May, we discovered that “Private Eye” had got wind of the story surrounding the Kingston’s rebuttal of Murphy’s allegations at the Cabinet Hearing in March and published an article on 13th July 2017, entitled “LIE OF THE LAND”, which reads as follows;
Labour Lambeth council wants to demolish six council estates in prime locations and then rebuild them – and isn’t going to let anything like the residents’ wishes get in its way.
In March the councillor for Gipsy Hill ward, Luke Murphy, told a cabinet meeting considering demolition of the Central Hill estate of the dreadful state some of his constituents were living in. Many tenants recognised that demolition and rebuilding was the best way to secure decent quality homes for everyone.
Murphy said: “They include an elderly brother and sister… who support the decision [to demolish] because of the persistent mould in their home, which covers their walls and they fear is affecting their health. They… feel the new properties would be better adapted to their needs.”
Curiously, when the cabinet decision to demolish Central Hill estate was called in by the Conservative opposition to be reconsidered, Karen Bennett, secretary of the Central Hill tenants and residents association, had a quite different story about the brother and sister in question. They had made a statement, which was read to the overview and scrutiny committee last month.
“We received a visit. Not from Luke Murphy but from another ward councillor, Jennifer Brathwaite, who… spoke to us at the door. She asked if we have any issues in our home. My brother Bill told her we have mice, and are very upset that the council are doing nothing to resolve the issue. Bill [said] the only mould we have is in the corner of the living room ceiling, and a small patch on the ceiling by the window in one of the bedrooms. We… do not consider the mould to be a risk to our health. We certainly don’t think it’s a reason to knock down the flats…
“We have never said we support demolition and have completed surveys… and have stated in them that we do not want demolition but want the estate refurbished… We are very happy here and want this to be our home for the rest of our lives. We strongly oppose demolition and are very angry that Cllr Murphy has misrepresented us to cabinet.”
Having carefully considered the truthful version, rather than Cllr Murphy’s fabrication, the committee… duly upheld the cabinet decision to demolish.
Interestingly, despite the deafening silence from Luke Murphy following the Scrutiny Hearing in May, shortly after the publication of the “Private Eye” article, Murphy contacted Barbara and Bill Kingston directly by way of a letter dated 26th July 2017 which reads as follows :
Dear Mr Kingston and Ms Kingston
I wanted to write to you regarding my statement to Lambeth Council’s Cabinet on the decision to rebuild Central Hill.
In the statement I gave to Lambeth Council’s Cabinet, I included accounts of residents’ views including your own, which were provided by a colleague who had spoken to residents directly and made notes of their views in good faith. Since then, a different account of your views has been presented which contradicts the description I gave to cabinet.
As I said in my letter to you last week, I am very keen to speak to you in person regarding these issues having not done so already. However, if I have caused any upset, as I understand to be the case, for what was a genuine misunderstanding then I wholeheartedly apologise. It was not my intention and for any hurt I have caused I am sorry.
But I also wanted to say that at no point did I seek to misrepresent your views or make any fabrication, which is what has been alleged. The account I gave to Cabinet was given in good faith based on the reports I received from a colleague. I take my position as a local councillor incredibly seriously because I recognise that I was elected to represent the views of all the residents of Gipsy Hill and stand up for their interests.
I would welcome a discussion with you regarding this matter and the proposals for Central Hill more generally so please do get in touch should you feel able to and we can arrange a time that is convenient to you.
Cllr Luke Murphy
Somewhat bemused by the letter from Murphy, so long after the Scrutiny hearing, Barbara and Bill Kingston nevertheless contacted him agreeing to a meeting with him at their home. Barbara, nervous of further misrepresentation by the councillor, also contacted Karen Bennett asking if she would be prepared to act as a witness to the meeting. Karen agreed. Despite failed attempts to set a date (Cllr Murphy cancelled several times at short notice to be at a wedding, to get over a wedding, etc.) an appointment was eventually set for 10th August 2017 @ 11 am.
As Barbara, Bill and Karen waited for Councillor Murphy to arrive, purportedly to make good his apology, they could never have anticipated what happened next. The doorbell rang at 11.05 am, Barbara answered the door, and Luke Murphy walked in…… not alone, but accompanied by Fiona Cliffe, a regeneration officer for Lambeth Council who has been working hard for the last two years to convince residents that demolition of their homes was the best solution to replace an allegedly decrepit council estate.
The waiting residents were astonished by the sheer effrontery of Luke Murphy to bring someone along without warning, but even more so that it was Fiona Cliffe. However, the conversation that followed was truly bizarre and showed the intention of Luke Murphy, who had not expected Karen Bennett to be present at the meeting, was not to apologise at all, but to manipulate Barbara and Bill Kingston into altering their stated view of the regeneration project… and he brought Fiona Cliffe along to do the dirty work.
Here is the conversation :
Luke – I brought Fiona so that we could talk in more detail about your housing situation and the situation on the estate.
Barbara – That’s alright.
Luke – It’s up to you really. I don’t know whether that’s helpful or you feel that you know what’s going on.
Barbara – Well, they tell you different things, don’t they. I think they’ve made up their minds.
Fiona – Yeah, yeah, they have. I mean I can give you a sort of potted history but the other thing as well, in terms of, I work for the Council and obviously Luke is a Councillor but we also have independent advisors who are PPCR so if you wanted to talk to someone separate from the Council then maybe you can make an appointment and we’ll give you the contact details. But if you’re happy for me to be here, that’s fine.
Barbara – Yeah, yeah.
Luke – So obviously, I want to reiterate what I said in my letter; obviously, I regret the misunderstanding that’s occurred and obviously I passed on what I said in my statement in good faith to cabinet based on the conversation I understood Jennifer had with you and I suppose it would be good to get a sense from you about your views on the actual proposals and then if you want to talk about your housing situation with Fiona, you can – you don’t have to do that now, you can do that another at another point if you want to.
Fiona – Yeah, yeah.
Luke – It’s in your hands really.
Fiona – Do you want me to give you a potted history of where we are?
Barbara – Yeah, go on then.
Fiona – Right. I was just talking to Luke and saying how long I’ve been here. Two years. In relation to…… Cabinet made a decision back in March to redevelop the estate. So that was the decision. We then had a scrutiny after that which obviously is what Luke was talking about. Then we had this period where potentially there could have been a legal challenge. We’re through that now so what we’ve actually got is a decision to redevelop the estate. It’s not going to happen overnight so where……….
Barbara – They’re saying 2019…..
Fiona – Yeah. And that’s if we can create the capacity on the estate, which I think we can. I’m not an architect and I’m not a developer but again that’s why we want residents to……
Barbara – Why don’t they just refurbish it?
Fiona – Well, that’s what the problem is, in terms of – well there’s three things in relation to…. First of all, Lambeth hasn’t got the money in terms of to actually do a refurbishment.
Barbara – I would think it was more expensive……
Fiona – No, and it’s one of those weird things in terms of – Lambeth as a council, in terms of they can’t borrow any more money…they haven’t got the money and they can’t borrow any money. But if we set “Homes for Lambeth” up, and they can actually borrow money. So I can understand what you’re saying, when refurbishment has to be cheaper than knocking down and starting again but it’s almost like two separate budgets and obviously we need houses; we need more housing and the other thing is; the big thing is in terms of when it was identified right the way back in November 2014, it’s also, you know putting those two things together, and also in terms of, capacity for more homes. That’s where we are.
Barbara – Are they going to build high rise blocks?
Fiona – No…what we’re….that’s what…..nothing’s been decided. So bottom line, which is part of the cabinet decision, and obviously Karen’s been through the whole situation with the Residents Engagement Panel, is what Cabinet decided is the number of units will double,..at least. That is an absolute minimum. So, and what we actually looked at, is we’re looking at probably heights of block, probably about six storeys. It’s not saying there’s not going to be some higher, but we’re not looking at twenty storeys or anything like that. And also, in terms of anything that’s designed has to get the approval from planning.
So planning probably wouldn’t want twenty storeys or whatever. But it is going to be increased density.
Barbara – So, are they all going to be like that? Or what are they going to be like? Maisonettes like we’ve got now?
Fiona – Well, maisonettes and flats. If you’re talking about a block, it’s less likely to be houses. There might well be….we haven’t worked out the design yet. We want residents to be a part of that. There might be some houses round the periphery of the estate, just where it’s sort of opposite houses, like on Roman Rise? Or opposite the vicarage, or something like that? We don’t know. So, where we are in the process is, we haven’t got a design, which is what you were saying; have we got houses, have we got maisonettes or whatever. What we have is we’re appointing what’s called a Development Management Team.
Fiona – so for the majority of people the big thing that is the architect. There will be a lot more engagement as well going on including we want to get benefits for residents. We don’t just want 4 walls and a roof, we want socio-economic benefits, employment training, community, lots of things that residents will benefit from. Again we’ve had residents involved in the appointment and probably about, in the next month or two, we’ll know who those architects are actually going to be. And then we want to start talking to residents about the design of the estate going forward. So it’s a blank sheet of paper and we’ve also got a part of the consultation would be through a process as well, we’ve got what’s called a Residents Design Brief. Some of the things which are different in terms of views of London, keeping the estate green, things like that. The architects will be working with that statement in terms of what residents want. The other issue in relation to what actually happened as well is as soon as we got a Cabinet decision members said the people who wanted to actually move off permanently and for the majority of people that is going to be within Lambeth or even temporarily and maybe come back later. They could start the process of bidding. We sent out lots of letters to people to actually say if you want to move off and we’ve got someone who can actually help with that process, a gentleman called Paul. He’s down here every Tuesday. What we can do is we can guarantee that part of that and because the council is telling you you have to move there’s compensation which is £5800. Its set by government it’s not set by the Council. Also the cost of moving. So people can opt to come back or move away but for a lot of people it might well mean, talking to Karen and other residents on the estate, and these people like Central Hill. People like Crystal Palace.
Barbara – it’s a nice area.
Fiona – so lots of people will probably move straight from what they’re in into a new property. The only problem is if we start building something in 2019 you’re probably looking about 18 months minimum for a completion. The council have to maintain the properties up to the point a section is handed over to Homes for Lambeth. So what will actually happen, what we won’t be doing is we won’t be doing any major investment. They will repair as much as possible but beyond that they’re going to have to look at doing more. Things like kitchens and bathrooms will be repaired as much as possible.
Barbara – we’ve spoken about new kitchens and bathrooms. Other people have got them and that’s what we want.
Fiona – and that’s what a lot of residents have actually said. Why did Central Hill, when it was Lambeth Living they thought they had the funding to do all the properties. Things cost more. They took longer and Central Hill didn’t get done.
Barbara – we were the last ones to get the windows.
Fiona – I don’t know why it was Central Hill that didn’t get done as part of that programme but now we find ourselves in a situation where the funding isn’t there for the full refurbishment. And the situation’s been getting worse because with everything, cutbacks, not so much in terms of what actually happened is Lambeth will collect the rent but the rents are actually going down over 4 years. So the money coming in is less than we thought and what they’re doing is costing more. So that’s why we’re here. We’re here because there isn’t the money to do the refurbishment. We’ve costed it up but even that wouldn’t have addressed lots of the issues on the estate. So from your perspective of in terms of…it really is what you want and when you want it. Nothing’s going to happen until year 10. You can be here. We’ll come and talk to you again, we’re looking at starting what’s called the Housing Needs Survey. We’ll probably start that in autumn but we’ll do it section by section so its going to take us quite a long time to do and then we’ll come and talk to people about their options. We’re not going to write in stone I want to move off. I want to stay. It’s for you to think about things and the reason we need to know what people are considering is when we actually start developing properties.
Barbara – Right…
Fiona – don’t take away from the fact that its people’s homes and people’s lives. It is difficult. Also even if people wanted to move it would be difficult.
Barbara – its just all that upheaval.
Fiona – we can help with that but its still you that’s got to do it.
Luke – you can’t get away from that
Barbara – we don’t really want to move out of the area, Crystal Palace, doctors and everything else. We don’t want to move.
Fiona – Paul is more of an expert than me on the housing side, the rehousing side.
Barbara – I was born round here. I’ve always lived here.
Fiona – and our problem is we were just talking about it the other day, in terms of where we are we’re right at the south of Lambeth. The other side of the road is Croydon. If you want to stay in the area you’ve got to go slightly north or to Streatham in relation to – if you were living in the centre you’d have a whole circle.
Barbara – its like 5 boroughs here
Fiona – so you can think about that but you can change your mind in relation and circumstances might change. And there’s other options in terms of different types of houses. Some of the things we might look at in terms of older people, you are living at this end of the estate, its actually quite accessible for you to get to the triangle.
Barbara – yes that’s what I’m saying, the bus stop opposite is so convenient.
Fiona – lots of people who are at that end, older people actually get a bus from the bottom of the estate up to the triangle.
Barbara – that’s just one stop.
Fiona – we know that. So it might be… well lucky that when we look at a local lettings plan, we could look at something. Nothing’s been developed yet and we do want to talk to people. When we’ve got the architects on what we’re having as a design group we’re just going to set that up. That’s going to be at the beginning of September. You’re going to get a newsletter about that and as soon as we’ve got the development team which includes the architect we’ll click in and we’ll be talking to people and they can put their options in terms of what they actually think it will look like. It’s going to be a minimum of double density. It’s going to be an additional 460 properties; there are 2 hostels, nuclear bunker, a shop, a housing office, day centre and a doctor’s surgery; things that people…. We know its 460 properties at least that are home owners and tenanted, they’re going to increase by a minimum of 500 to 750 which I don’t think it will go that high but that’s the parameters set in the Cabinet report.
Luke – 950
Fiona – increasing by 750.
Barbara – there’s about 400 families now.
Fiona – 460 households that we’ve got tenanted and home owners. There’s a lot of land that is under used on the estate but we can look at that with residents and we can talk about –
Barbara – so when they do pull them down they’ll only do half –
Fiona – it will be phased. Its too big to do in one go.
Barbara – that’s what I’m saying. They’ll only do part at a time. Then those people would obviously have to go into temporary accommodation the first people that move out
Fiona – no no no. Remember what we’re trying to say is we’re trying to create part of the estate where –
Barbara – so you’ll be building them before people move out
Fiona – that’s what we want to do. We want to create capacity on the estate. I’ve got ideas but I’m not an architect or an engineer. I think the engineering because it’s a hill as well, we’ll try and build so people don’t have to move twice. That’s what we’re trying to do. If you have to move temporarily, which of course no one has to, then they will have a contract that they can actually come back and we will be building a home for you. But there’s other options as well there’s other options in terms of – there’s different types of housing as well. Older people’s houses and sheltered accommodation. You might not want to consider it now but it might be something further down the line. There’s lots of different options.
Barbara – he’s 75 in 3 or 4 years time.
Fiona – then what we can do if you like Central Hill you stay and we move you straight into something new. I can’t tell you in terms of what that will be. I don’t know what’s going to be first and what’s –
Barbara – we’ve got mice.
Fiona – have you reported them.
Barbara – yes we keep reporting them.
Fiona – is it the pipes
Barbara – apparently they’re coming in, the old central heating. So the council – I want it all boarded in, boxed in, but they don’t do that any more.
Fiona – don’t they
Barbara – so what am I supposed to do
Luke – this is something that I can pick up
Barbara – its been going on since last year. February last year. Now someone said the council must have planted them because we’ve lived here 40 years and nothing’s happened until they said they were going to pull the places down.
Luke – has someone been to visit
Barbara – apparently they’ve done all the holes and put wire wool and now in my bedroom you can feel the pipes so I put all wire wool across and wood in front but I can still hear them at night scuttling. Keeping me awake
Fiona – the problem is you might have the mice go from your property to somebody else’s and someone else has got a property and they’re coming back.
Barbara – because of the mice. She had them first at number 6.
Fiona – I’ve got a cat and I’ve seen him with a rat
Barbara – but then they bring the dead mice in. everyone says we’ll get a cat but –
Fiona – Luke can take that up
Barbara – I want them to box the old central heating in. I won’t be happy until – I found a dead one in the kitchen on Friday. We went on holiday about 6 weeks ago and when he came back there was a dead one on the stairs. I don’t know where they’re coming from because they’re supposed to have done all the holes.
Fiona – we can report that back
Barbara – can you report that as well. Then I’d be happy to live here. At the moment I’m afraid of going to bed; I can hear them scuttling sometimes behind the boards. It keeps me awake sometimes.
Fiona – I was at my house and a friend was round and my cat just brought this rat in and it dropped this live rat in front of us and we had to – and then a week later I found it, the smell was awful.
Luke – we’ve got mice in our flat which we can’t get rid of. They keep coming into the kitchen
Barbara – we’ve had them climbing up the curtains. We hadn’t seen any for about 6 weeks after we came back from holiday but then we found a dead one in the kitchen. So I don’t know where they came from.
Fiona – do you want someone to give you a ring
Barbara – yes. We keep on having the pest control people down. Then the people from the council come, Mears come and do the holes and put wire wool in and stuff like that and apparently they’re all filled in but then we still – that’s the only thing. I am a bit nervous at the moment.
Fiona – I’m at the office on Tuesday. What I’ll do is email them anyway and Tuesday I’ll actually talk to somebody. I’ll give you a ring. We’re going to be visiting you on Tuesday. I’ll tell you why in a minute. What’s your telephone number.
Barbara – 0208******* If we’re not here leave a message.
Fiona – my number’s on everything as well. I’ll ring you back on Tuesday. At least I’ll tell you what’s happening.
Barbara – when they do come we have to wait 3-4 weeks before anyone comes and does anything. That’s the only thing; I’m a bit nervous at the moment.
Luke – is there anything apart from the mice that we can –
Barbara – not really. We’re happy to live here.
Fiona – we’ll come and talk to you.
Barbara – I keep seeing shadows. It’s all in my mind.
Fiona – we’re going to knock on you next week, we’re delivering an invite. We’re going to have a coffee morning down at the Resource Centre again. Also so people can bring their memories of Central Hill and Crystal Palace.
Barbara – I was born in gipsy hill.
Fiona – we’re going to do that….
Luke – whereabouts
Barbara – opposite the church. There was flats there. Not council they were private.
Fiona – since you’re over 65 we’re going to have another coffee morning. I think we’re starting that thing abut getting people talking about (a) what it was like and also we can pick out what good design features are or not. Things like that. We’re just going to be delivering a leaflet for you on Tuesday as well. The main thing is don’t worry and you will. If you do worry I’m Fiona, I work for the council. You’ve got the independent advisers. Also in terms of talk to us in relation to what your position is. We don’t always have a magic wand in terms of – whether I can get rid of your mice I don’t know but at least I can go back and try.
Barbara – they just told me they don’t box them in any more the old central heating. I mean its ridiculous. It’s where the mice are coming from originally.
Luke – have your neighbours complained as well about it. I know one has a cat.
Barbara – to the council
Luke – yes
Barbara – when I go down the office and complain all they say is get a cat. Then you have to wait 4 weeks before someone comes in and I think the bloke who was in charge down there came once and he said we don’t box them in, just fill the holes in. but they’re supposed to have filled all the holes in but we’re still getting them.
Fiona – as I say I can find out what’s going on and then I can report back to you in relation to what’s going on. Have you got anything else, any questions on anything.
Barbara – Not really no.
Fiona – and if you do have questions come back.
Barbara – I can’t think of anything at the moment.
Fiona – just all us or call Karen who knows the independent advisers as well. There’s also in terms of if things have been said on the estate and you want to check, independent advisers or us. We’re trying to put lots of information out. There’s a newsletter been going out in terms of what’s actually happening and we’ve actually got your neighbour getting involved as well in terms of trying to….
Luke – anything you want you’re got my contact details.
Fiona – if you do it as a member’s enquiry it will have a bit more weight
Luke – I’ll forward you a copy of that email that I send them. They should reply within 10 working days or we’ll try and get someone along a lot quicker than 4 weeks.
Barbara – yes because its ridiculous.
Fiona – again if you want to be involved in the design process, picking up what you’re saying if you’re older this end of the estate is actually –
Barbara – yes if you live down there you have to get a bus up the hill
Fiona – that’s okay if you’re at the top then if you’re down further down
Barbara – we’re lucky here I can just walk along to the shops. It’s all on the level.
Luke – thanks for your time and if there’s anything you want to raise with us do get in touch. As I said in my letter I am sorry for the upset I caused.
Fiona – myself and my colleague, she’s down at the resource office, we’ll be down at the resource centre in a minute. We’re on the estate every Tuesday. At the moment we’re in the housing office. We’re going to start going back to the resource centre. So again the problem is you don’t get many people passing down there but we do come out and talk to people as much as we can.
Luke – thanks for having us. If anything comes up again I’m regularly in the area. We can just pop round again. Fiona is here every Tuesday.
So, as you can see, Luke Murphy was not concerned that he lied to cabinet, or that this may have affected the cabinet decision, or even that he has more than just Barbara and Bill Kingston to answer to for his deceitful actions.
Luke Murphy is just determined to see Central Hill Estate demolished in line with the Lambeth Labour Council’s plans and will go to any lengths, however underhand to see that happen.
Only one final question needs to be asked in view of the fact that Murphy repeatedly blames his colleague Councillor Brathwaite for the “misunderstanding”; did they conspire together to mislead the Lambeth Cabinet meeting convened to decide the future of the Central Hill Estate?
The plot thickens………